Tan France didn’t think Antoni Porowski was so fab at first.

In fact, the fashion expert revealed it took some time for him and Antoni to bond when they met during season one of Queer Eye in 2018.

“Even though he’s one of my closest friends in the world, we started out as complete strangers,” Tan admitted to Jesse Tyler Ferguson on the June 23 episode of his Dinner’s On Me podcast. “Somebody I did not think I liked at all when I first met him, and then we became very, very close.”

As for why he was suspicious of the foodie upon first meeting, Tan confessed, “I thought he was too nice.”

“After work, I need someone to gossip with and say, ‘Hey, what that bitch said to me today,'” the 43-year-old explained. “Like, ‘Can you believe that happened?’ And I need them to say, ‘Yeah, I did hear it.’ Like, ‘Can you f–king believe she said this to me?'”